Crazy151drinker,
Thats true. The Catholics have learnt by bitter experience. Now its time for the Watchtower to act wise and quit being so stubborn. Like I said before I think they have still a long way to go.
Rado
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ANGER!!!
by Rado Vleugel inwhen i surf on this discussion board i feel a lot of anger.
this is totally understandable because a lot of us suffered or still are suffering from their association with the watchtower society.
some of us are victims of child abuse.
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ANGER!!!
by Rado Vleugel inwhen i surf on this discussion board i feel a lot of anger.
this is totally understandable because a lot of us suffered or still are suffering from their association with the watchtower society.
some of us are victims of child abuse.
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Hi Outnfree,
I too understand what you are saying, and I dont totally disagree! Sorry that I created the impression that there is no room for anger. Anger is a natural emotion. Its necessary to give anger its place. I said dont let anger rule your view on reality; I didnt say dont let you ever be angry!
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ANGER!!!
by Rado Vleugel inwhen i surf on this discussion board i feel a lot of anger.
this is totally understandable because a lot of us suffered or still are suffering from their association with the watchtower society.
some of us are victims of child abuse.
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When I surf on this Discussion board I feel a lot of anger. This is totally understandable because a lot of us suffered or still are suffering from their association with the Watchtower Society. Some of us are victims of child abuse. A lot of us are the victims of shunning. But (and I hope I dont sound to much like a teacher) dont let anger rule your view on reality!
Some of us feel rejoiced when the Watchtower Society is attacked in newspapers and television programs: 1-0 for us!. They hope that the last days of the Watchtower Society have finally come. But how many of us consider it a disaster that the Roman Catholic Church is still live and kicking? The history of the Catholic Church is much darker and filled with intrigues and genocide than the history of the Watchtower Society. Despite this blemished history, most of us dont see the Catholc Church as one of the axes of evil because we are not emotionally involved with its dealings.
When the media shows how the Organization deals with sexual child-abuse we have to be happy because this media attention can be of great benefit for the victims. We don't have to be happy because it harms the reputation of the Watchtower Society. It is not necessary that the Watchtower Society crumbles and finally disappears, it is necessary that the Watchtower Society changes some very important issues. And I think we have a long way to go to achieve these goals.
We can continue our struggle for more freedom within the Organization -a healthy policy regarding blood and sexual abuse and a humane association with Disfellowshipped ones- without venting our rage on the Society. If we approach all these issues on a balanced manner, doubting Witnesses will see that our intentions are good and that we arent stereotype apostates.
Just my thoughts based on my own experiencesRado vleugel http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/
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U.S. War with Iraq
by Crazy151drinker ini just wanted to get some opinions on this matter from everyone.
support here in the states is pretty solid but very weak in europe.
i will make my prediction (ie you know) that we will be having a little sand party within a year.
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Rado Vleugel
In the Netherlands we dont like Sadam either. But there is no general support for Dessert Storm II. It is very doubtful the Al Quaida network has any connection with Iraq (Osama offered even his help to fight Sadam when Kuwait was attacked. This offer was refused by the Saudi Government).
We have more admiration for Colin Powel and other moderate politicians who dont act on impulse alone.I think its very dangerous when Iraq will be attacked. Iraq and armed groups in Libanon will attack Israel (who will not hesitate to strike back like they did in the early 90ties) and the Arabian/Islamic countries (with maybe the exception of Kuwait and NATO partner Turkey) will definitely not support the US this time.
Just my opinion,
Rado Vleugel The Netherlands http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/Edited by - Rado Vleugel on 9 August 2002 17:19:2
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An Interesting PRO-JW Site
by Mister Biggs ini stumbled across this site today.
i wonder who runs it.
has anyone ever heard of this site before?
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Rado Vleugel
Hi Mister 8iggs (the same as Biggs?),
There wasn't a discrepancy in the article. Both our sites have the same book review: http://jehovah.to/freedom/review.htm & http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/bergman.html
This book review has critique on the book written by ex-JW Bergman. On my site I try to be as objectice as possible, that's why I also published this book review that is crittical toward an ex-JW writter. I e-mailed JW united with the remark that Richard Singelenberg has written more articles about Jehovah's Witnesses like The Blood Transfusion Taboo of Jehovah's Witnesses and It separated the wheat from the chaff about 1975.Rado Vleugel
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An Interesting PRO-JW Site
by Mister Biggs ini stumbled across this site today.
i wonder who runs it.
has anyone ever heard of this site before?
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Hi Mister Biggs,
I know this website. I once e-mailed them because my site and theirs have published the same article written by social scientist Richard Singelenberg in the Scientific Research-section.
They didn't response to my e-mail.Rado Vleugel
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WIS back online
by Rado Vleugel ini received several e-mails from disturbed people who thought watchtower information service was taken offline by me.
due to a technical problem caused by my hosting provider the site wasn't accessible for six hours.
now it's up and running again.. .
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Hi Syn,
Is this some kind of South African (language that finds it origin in Dutch): Dink hulle ons gaan net opgij? Do they think we're just gonna give up? Translated into Dutch is: Denken zij dat we het zomaar opgeven?
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WIS back online
by Rado Vleugel ini received several e-mails from disturbed people who thought watchtower information service was taken offline by me.
due to a technical problem caused by my hosting provider the site wasn't accessible for six hours.
now it's up and running again.. .
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Rado Vleugel
I received several e-mails from disturbed people who thought Watchtower Information Service was taken offline by me.
Due to a technical problem caused by my hosting provider the site wasn't accessible for six hours. Now it's up and running again.
Rado Vleugel
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Who Here Believes in God?
by The_Bad_Seed inpersonally, i do not believe god ever has or ever will exist.
i have my reasons -- i guess i could be considered an agnostic, rather than an athiest.
i was curious to see what the larger part of the former borg community believed, now looking from the outside in, rather than the opposite.
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Rado Vleugel
I dont believe in God. And if I were God I would be an atheist; because who created me? ;-) not that simple, but I dont have the time to explain it in great detail.
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What pisses you off about elders wives?
by bay64me in.
the elders wife that really pisses me off, is the one that would boastfully announce that jehovah had provided her husband with a part-time teaching job, emphasising that his employment was "on the line" each year....but thanks to jehovah,(in other words) we are so fucking loyal and do many hours in field service and things that nobody could possibly know about ( but i'm letting you know indirectly) so my husband has an income to assist us in our pioneer service!
what pisses you off about elders wives?
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Rado Vleugel
Malicious gossip...
Rado Vleugel
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